I’m watching this video of these enraged Anti-Muslim crowd in downtown New York and it doesn’t seem to much different from the videos I saw at the half a dozen Pro Johannes Mehserle rallies held last month or the anti-immigrant rallies I saw in Arizona..What we see is sheer ignorance in masse which can easily become violent. Yet we are as Black folks and People of Color are told to 1_Move your Mosque 2_ Ignore the racism because its not something that we should be concerned about 3_Being asked to ease up and try to understand the angst that other whites are feeling when such actions are pointed out and shared with other people of color.. Sad part is the man is not even a Muslim..but it doesn’t matter and even if he was he shouldn’t be harassed.
I see this video and it reminds me of being in situations where you have to hold your tongue or suffer severe life altering consequences. Anyone who’s been in the presence of a cop berating or even hitting a loved one knows what I’m talking about. You wind up taking it and it sits for years..
To have a group of whites yelling Muhammed is a Pig is outrageous. You see the woman who is going all out to hold up her sign equating Islam with Hamas.. Nothing more needs to be said..Racism and Intolerance is alive and well even in a great melting pot like New York City..
In the video below
A man walks through the crowd at the Ground Zero protest and is mistaken as a Muslim. The crowd turns on him and confronts him. The man in the blue hard hat calls him a coward and tries to fight him. The tall man who I think was one of the organizers tried to get between the two men. Later I caught up with the man who’s name is Kenny. He is a Union carpenter who works at Ground Zero. We discussed what a scary moment that was for him. I told him that I hoped it did not ruin his day.
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Last I checked, drawing a cartoon of Muhammad was still punishable by death. Yeah man, that’s tolerance. And last I checked, Muhammad ordered the murder of all sorts of people in Koran. And last I checked, women were still being stoned to death all over the world under the law of Islam. And last I checked, being gay was also still a crime in Islamic countries. So speak about being a victim all you want Davey. You still in the closet living a lie and trying to be relevant.
Hey Dave, Muslims aren’t brown. They’re white, Asian, black, Arab, Persian. Those last two kill each other everyday but maybe you know even less than you claim. You want to divide and make oppressors victims. That’s all you have left. You just a liar in the closet. Convert to Islam and try your lifestyle out in that world.
Let’s say all that is true Tim.. what’s the excuse for a man who is not even Muslim being attacked by a group of ‘Non Muslims who should no better? Naw Tim try as you may u are defending the indefensible… All this talk about stoning and cartoons has nothing to do with America..
That video is a manifestation of fear. I do not know why we look at this video and collectively gasp America is a lot like Google, our mantra is “Don’t be Evil” but our actions our totally dedicated to self-service. Yes Islam isn’t perfect in our eyes, however OUR religion was used to burn “Witches,” Conquer North America, and create the most heinous form of slavery in the history of the world. Judging by statistics, im sure at least 1 Islamic person died from the terrorist acts committed on 9/11. And that doesn’t include the millions of people who have been displaced or killed by terrorist attacks in Iraq since our occupation. Fuck it don’t put a historic symbol there that we may learn from put a Mcdonalds, and a Starbucks there so you fat overprivilaged bastards can STFU
Yeah, witches were burned when? Women being stoned now but you know. And as far as people drawing cartoons of Muhammad being threatened by death did happen right here in the US. Check Comedy Central. I guess you think defending the indefensible makes sense. Muhammad married an eight year old. Had sex with her when she was nine. They still forcing baby girls to get married and you all think it’s okay. Defend the devil if you must. Count this brother out.
Who you calling fat? Have you met Dave?
Just as I thought Tim.. Francis Cress was correct.. here we have an American citizen a construction worker at ground Zero being attacked by other Americans who have no idea as to who he is.. Those attacking weren’t concerned about stones being thrown at women.. neither were you Tim.. Did you speak out on that? Sign any petitions? Partake in the discussion we had on this when it happened on our page? Did you join the millions of other Muslims who condemned that act? naw you didn’t.. U did a wikipedia search to try to defend the indefensible..
Again an American citizen was being attacked by others on false assumptions w/ people hurling what they thought would be harmful insults and the desire to beat him..Your response to this is one that was predicted.. To tell us about stonings 8 thousand miles away as if to suggest that if anything harmful happened he deserved the treatment bc of what some nut cases in another land did..In short you my friend are defending the indefensible..
Yes your right Tim..witches were burned in Salem a long time ago, but cross burnings took place last year.. That would be ‘Today’… Violence took place last week when folks repping my religion.. decided to go Gay bashing in SF.. Did u speak out on any of those things Tim? Naw your were probably reading wikipedia to find more justifications.. LOL
Have anyone ever heard the saying: “Two wrongs, don’t make one right”?!
How can anyone justify violence upon another human being, especially over the right to build a building? All of this negative energy, hate & time over a center that is to enlighten everyone about their beliefs & cultures.
As a person who have experienced bullying as a child for my religious beliefs not only from classmates, but teachers as well due to ignorance of not knowing the facts of our beliefs. Which it has not changed today, just more accepted. Although, I’m not practicing it today for personal reasons, all of my friends have been misinformed.
If you believe the Muslims are practicing the wrong religion, as Christians you have an obligation to show them the right way in love & peace. Jesus set the example for all of us. He would show love to all mankind, while trying to show them how we should worship God the correct way. Only by showing love can we have people that will be willing to approach each other an exchange ideas.
Also while sitting on your high horses Jesus said to love your enemies & your neighbors. So, when you close your eyes permanently, I hope you have done as required by the bible you or religion you supposedly practice.
Peace & Love To All
It’s sad to see so many New Yorkers go out like this, as puppets. They wouldn’t have even known about this rec center (not a mosque) if it wasn’t for the media stirring the pot. It’s not even within eye shot of the 9/11 site. It’s on a side street, that sees no foot traffic of WTC tourists. I thought these patriotic New Yorkers had street smarts. Guess not. They’re being used like pawns. The media could make them jump on one foot like Simon Says. That’s more of a disgrace to those who gave their lives on 9/11 than a Muslim rec center going up.
“Just as I thought Tim.. Francis Cress was correct”
Of course, because non of this is just tribal mob nonsense. Their is a biologically motivated deeper meaning.
it’s really cocasian peoples unconscious desire to be black. They are missing melanin in their skin and that’s what motivated the people in this video.
On valentines day the white man gives the white woman chocolate nuts and white always goes first in chess. Also photons are involved when reflecting off white peoples skin and sheet yo’
Tim, the only reason non whites, women, and gays have rights in America is because they fought for them. It wasn’t up to the political right for them to have these rights. If it were up to the right wing forces here in America, blacks would be on their side of the color line, women would be in the kitchen, and gays would be executed. So right wing America has no high ground to judge Islam where civil rights are concerned, because Islam is no less fascist than they are.
This issue is about Isrealies and Palistinians in “America”. Only in New York this can become a matter of Black VERSUS White. This is not about no “Civil Rights”. Black people better wake up, Both of these damn people enslaved them, one even financed the whole African Middle Passage slave trade in America. THIS AIN’T NO DAMN CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE, NO MORE THAN THE GAY PEOPLE’S. THIS IS NEW YORK GREEDY LAND LORDS OR LAND OWNERS RENTING OR SELLING A BUILDING TO THE HIGHEST DAMN BIDDER. WAKE UP, BLACK PEOPLE!!! THIS IS NOT “YOUR” BATTLE!!!. IMAGINE IF THEY BLEW UP YOUR HOUSE WITH YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS IN IT AND THEN 600 FEET AWAY, DOWN THE STREET, THEY WANTED TO OPEN A COMMUNITY CENTER IN “THIER” FAMILY NAME. KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE, ISN’T IT? KEEP THE BLACKS AND WHITES FIGHTING IN NEW YORK WHILE WE CONTINUE TO MAKE ALL THE MONEY. I JUST NEED TO KNOW “WHO OWNED THE BUILDING OR LAND” BEFORE ALL THIS SHIT STARTED. “HIP-HOP” AT ITS BEST! Black people, learn you history and fight your “own” battles.
Sharif El-Gamel is the property owner of the Islamic Mosque site and a supporter of “Israel”. Do the research, Black people!!! After all, this is Hymie Town. (FINA?) Always follow the monet trail, it’ll lalways ead right back to the Book of Revelations on these people -everyday.
Sounds like you’re on the wrong side of history once again…The issue is simple.. Freedom of Religion.. end of story..
No 1234..That would be correct.. They did it out of fear..the same fear and hatred of self you have…please get the theory correct..
“They did it out of fear..the same fear and hatred of self you have. please get the theory correct”
Here, I think I got this “theory” corrected now and I have also remedied my deep seeded hatred of self (the same hatred of self that that your attraction to Francis Cress Welsings ideas obviously demonstrate that you DON’T harbor)
Caucasian people are the ancestors of albino genetic mutants that came from Africa and initially got the shit beat out of them by black Africans thousands of years ago, the same way some Africans kill albinos today – cause witch doctors tell them they will have great social status and wealth if they kill them.
This is why Europeans have plastered their image over a bunch of shit….cause they are really upset and shit. That’s why they invented Santa Clause and white Jesus.
Remember those reports about “astroturf” movements surrounding the faux-dialog over health care reform last year (disruptions of townhalls)? Keep in mine that these same folks have had their noses in other issues as well and are funded by right-leaning moneymakers (MSM is a wash). There are reports that these same figures are doing the same thing with this faux-concern over a community center (see WSJ RE: strip bars in area) and don’t forget some more faux-concerns from Beck(y)’s “celebration” of MLK’s Dream speech. All this stuff is either phony or silly…:/
“Keep in mind…”
This is pure propaganda for New York, There was only one reason this mosque is being built, who benefits the most from the “sentiments?”. Davey D, boy you haven’t changed. Boy do they butter your bread. 🙂
@1234 I was trying not to reply to this issue anymore, but I can’t help myself when you made the statement them inventing “Santa Claus” Christmas was a pagan holiday that was started by pagan religion that was worshiping the sun, and to get Christians to involved they decided to say it was the birthday of Christ. So therefore it they derived the term Christmas from “Christ” & “Mas”. So please know history when talking about religious holidays & it’s origin when putting race & religion together.
As I’ve said previously, and for the last time, I will never allow how my ancestors, a few people have done to allow me to hate the entire race based on the actions of a few. That is what my God has taught me, and that is how I choose to live my life.
All of us would be a lot better off if we would read our bibles, and live by it, than looking to others to dictate how we should live our lives. Then we would know what true love and peace is about. Not judging one another, because we all fall short. You never know who will come to your rescue one day. Even Malcolm X had a change of heart before being assassinated. But he was a Muslim. He was even looking into Dr. Martin Luther King’s no violence Civil Rights Movement..
So, I will end this with I will pray for each & every one that we can soften our heart to show love to all. Because this debate & hate is right down the devil’s ally. We never know if we need health care & only a Muslim doctor has the answer to a mystery illness. An our surgeon will be African American. And need an good Latino attorney one day. Or not in that order.
Peace & Love! Asalaam Alikum!
I don’t watch FOX, but atleast they have the courage to follow the money trail. Please do not bring Malcolm X up in this piece, Lady. We all know that he sold-out the Nation of Islam for his popularity from the jewish media. Malcolm X was a sell-out, NO DOUBT! He was a sell-out of his race and the entire religion of islam. He ws scared that’s why he tried to run back to the jews, who just used him to bring down the Nation of Islam with their media to begin with. Know your history, Black people, before you get caught up in the propaganda. Remember who employed Spike Lee. 😦 The money is going right back to jews from Egypt and waiters and stuff. They are in Hymie town – OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!. STEVIE WONDER CAN SEE THROUGH WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN NEW YORK, ISLAM IS TO INSENSITIVE TO SEE HOW THEY ARE BEING USED TO “NEVER” LET US “FORGET”. SOUND FAMILIAR? Wake up! This is America – not Israel and Paliestine, Dag, our kids are already over sees fighting t”heir” war, what more do they want?!!!
itz spiritual warfare here in this hell-hole…
what is the purpose of all this hatred on here?
does anyone bother lookn @ their own prejudices
before pointin fingaz @ othaz? and davey- shame
on u for misleadn; that wuz one persn yelln
mohammad is a pig, not “they”. stirring up more
strife may get u more hitz, but how does ur soul/mind
rest? a good leader finds how to bring ppl 2gether, not
how to tear apart; thn agn, there are followaz who get
caught up in emotion and easily r takn advantage of.
i’ve tried complimentn u on the good but ur stll bent on
peddlin the ugly like a travelln freakshow. this aint about
religion, race, class or any other divisive tool! this spirit
has been around before man was formd. we should
realize this world is not one-demensional.
ONE OF WORLDS RICHEST KNOWN JEWS IN AMERICA IS “MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG” OF NEW YORK CITY WHO IS WORTH 18 BILLION DOLLARS OWNING THE “JEW MEDIA” INDUSRTY BLOOMBERG NEWS. DUDE IS RIGHT, THIS IS SOME ZIONIST SHIT HAPPENING HERE!!! THEY ARE PRINTING AND CREATING THE NEWS IN NEW YORK THAT THEY WANT THE REST OF AMERICA TO KNOW. WHAT ADOLPH HITLER DID TO THESE PEOPLE THEY ARE DOING RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA TO “THE AMERICAN PEOPLE”. LIMBAUGH AND BECK ARE EMPLOYEDS BY THESE PEOPLE, THAT’S WHY THERE IS NEVER ANY QUESTION ASKED FROM THE RIGHT. THE MORE YOU RESEARCH THE MORE YOU SEE WHO REALLY OWNS AMERICA OR ” LITTLE ISRAEL” . THIS IS SCAREY SHIT!!!
“So the 70% of Americans opposed to the mosque are all right wing racists? Wow, I knew there were far more conservatives than liberals, but I didn’t know it was 70%. Must really keep you up at night. Wait, you don’t suppose that some of that 70% could be liberals, do you? Even though, by percentage, more people oppose the mosque than voted for Obama, you don’t accept that there is a diverse cross section of America that thinks the mosque is a bad idea, do you? It’s just those teabagger rednecks, right? You might want to put down your Starbucks, put down your text book, and come see the real world sometime.”
cldnt have said it any better
Take the focus off of New York and now close “all” mosque like in Tennesee or whereever, right?. They control the media so… The same thing Adolph Hitler did in Germany against their relatives, they are using the same propaganda against Americans. “An anti-semite used to be some one who hated jews, now an anti-semite is someone the jews hate”. The reason the Arabs attacked the World Trade Center is because it is the “jewish mecca” in America. The average American didn’t know what the hell the World Trade Center was until after 911. If they had of attacked the Statue of Liberty, Mount Rushmore, the White House, ect. it would have been an attack on the united States of America. They were attacking the jewish “Israel Mecca” in America. Jews brought the terrorist to America with their Zionist leader Areiol Sharron’s doing. Today they are trying to fight their Israeli vs. Palestinian War on American soil with these mosques. These “American Muslims” aren’t the ones who followed them to their “jewish mecca” – THE WORLD TRADE CENTER – in America. White people are so dumb and are “blinded by racism” that they do not even see how they are used by these people and their media to foster Zionism in America. Their goal is to keep whites and all people of color fighting in America while they make all of the money. We didn’t put Barrack Obama in office – THEY DID!!!! OPEN YOUR EYES, PEOPLE!!!
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why the fuck are u mother suckers saying something which doesn’t exist I swear the one who has written this comment I will seriously make him suffer and ruin his life curse him tooo death mother dog suckers his!
I have only 1 thing to say
all hate and war are caused by religion
fuck any religion.
just be true to yourself and be kind to other people
how hard can it fucking be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!